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 Post subject: Will Pre-K be a thing of the past?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:58 am 
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I can say I believe in Pre-K. Odessa is currently in it. It looks like it may be hanging on by a thread. This might be a good issue to contact Mullis, Scott, and Deal on. The legislature will be looking at the budget soon and this will be a hot topic.

http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/ ... n-georgia/
Should pre-k be limited to low-income families in Georgia?
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Georgia is at risk of losing its national reputation as a leader in early childhood education with a proposal to cut nearly $20 million from the pre-k program ( http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politic ... 24617.html ), which rules out any expansion of the popular program.

Georgia was considered the national leader when it introduced universal pre-k in 1995, but that initial momentum has slowed. Today, about 53 percent of the state’s eligible 4-year-olds are enrolled in lottery-financed pre-k classes, either in public or private schools. In contrast, Oklahoma has 70 percent of its 4-year-olds enrolled in its public pre-k.

Emerging research on brain development in toddlers and preschoolers led then-Gov. Zell Miller and Georgia to become pioneers in early child education, using lottery proceeds to pay for universal prekindergarten. (The state also funds its HOPE Scholarships through the lottery.)

However, the state has failed to build on that momentum, stalling on plans to greatly expand access in areas where they are waiting lists for slots. There has also been a long campaign by some intown lawmakers to introduce classes for low-income 3-year-olds, whose parents lack the resources to expose them to rich learning environments.

According to research, poor children benefit most from programs that emphasize school readiness and language development. Such early intervention can close the gaps that prevent low-income children from being able to read at third grade.

But there are some lawmakers who still maintain that the state should not be providing what they deem to be free day- care. Supporters counter that if the state doesn’t reach out to these children at age 3 and 4, it will lose them at age 16 or 17, when they are more likely to drop out of high school.

As with HOPE, the budget crisis is forcing hard questions, including whether we should limit pre-k to low-income kids. There is research that preschool has less academic benefit for children from higher income households, likely because those parents provide enrichment for their children in the home.

According to the AJC:

Gov. Nathan Deal is proposing to cut nearly $20 million from the pre-k program this year, and Georgia taxpayers face a difficult question: Can they afford free pre-k for every kid in the state?Rick Dent, a political strategist who was at then-Gov. Zell Miller’s side when plans for Georgia’s pre-k program were being formulated, says it’s decision-making time.

“We’ve dropped from pioneer and national leader to average, so Georgians must decide: Do we invest more money in providing top-quality universal pre-k or do we only provide top-quality pre-k to those students who need it most? Anything in between fails every 4-year-old.”

Lawmakers are mulling several potential options for ensuring the long-term viability, not only of pre-k, but also the arguably more popular HOPE scholarship program that the lottery also funds. Making it even more challenging, they know votes are likely won or lost with each scholarship that’s awarded or cut and each pre-kindergarten slot that opens up or is eliminated.

–By Maureen Downey for the AJC Get Schooled blog


Here is another good article on the cuts and the program
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politic ... 24617.html

Here are some poll numbers on it:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid= ... OWM1&hl=en


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Gov. Deal’s handing of the lottery revenue shortfall is also a potential danger zone.

While the language in the poll differs from his recent proposal to cut pre-kindergarten funding (the poll question asked about eliminating, rather than reducing, pre-kindergarten funding), voters overwhelmingly supporting modifying the HOPE Scholarship to eliminating pre-kindergarten to address the shortfall (57% for modifying HOPE, 35% for eliminating pre-kindergarten funding).

A plurality support means testing HOPE for families making more than $200,000 per year to cutting HOPE across the board by a
39% to 16% margin.


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 Post subject: Re: Will Pre-K be a thing of the past?
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David we will have differing views on this one. Pre-K except for the fact all that it is Tax funded Child care... is a waste of money (If you Can't Care for them DONT have them). When you have kids going to College without skills such as simple as fractions and how to use them, says that the pre-K program does not produce increased learning. It is time we re-work a broken Education system to a system that does what it is suppost to do Educate Kids... Lost are those studys that support that P-K learning does not increase knowledge beyond the 2nd Grade compaired students who have not recieved Pre-K. But then again ...what have facts got to do with it when there is "Free Child Taxpayer Care" to be had...


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I remember when Mr. Brandon said that in a meeting at Rising Fawn and the folks almost "Hung Him" with the Daycare quote on Pre-K. But Hope was started when the economy was good then Pre-K was added with the funds because they were plenty to go around. Now days, it's a much different story. The real thing that bothers me is the pay that some Pre-K teachers make because of their Degree's in teaching a very young mind in things like coloring and writing their name. I myself really can't comment other than that since Bailey didn't get the "Quality Education" that I so hoped she would....lol..lol...


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I have always said what are Pre-K teacher is hired ,not to teach, but to watch kids cry, Poop and pee in their pants.


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Something else I have wondered... if we start kids who are still pooping and peeing in thier pants and the early education is so good for them...Why are we still requireing kids go through 12th grade why not just cut it back to 10th. Being that Pre-K is so great...just sayin'


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Since they are wanting to CUT back hours on Pre-K, from 6 1/2 to 4 hours a day, does that mean that they salary paid to the teachers will go down?


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Surely you Jest!!!! That will happen when PIGS Fly...


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Well looks like the Pooping and Peeing is safe for another year being in that students who will be entering the workforce will get only 90% of what they are now getting and no books. Make me proud that all the little crumb snatchers have a place to go to pee and poop instead of doing it at home where they should do it. Once again Folks I will say it "IF YOU CAN'T pay to raise your child without depending on some one else to Educate, Feed and Care for them..DON"T HAVE THEM"... I DO NOT wish to fund such programs with my tax dollars.


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I believe it's just a matter of time before this house of cards falls. If you look around at what's going on around this country you can see that it's just not gonna re-cover. It may level out a little but folks have seen the "Good Ole Days" and now they are gone. I know that people like our Grandfathers have seen the bad get better, but far worse is us that have seen the Good get WORSE!


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Don't forget how the Lottery was even passed in Georgia. They used the ole Battle Cry that has worked on the taxpayers for years.... "It's Fer The Kids"! They had to "Play" to folks who were "On the Fence" with legal gambling.

But I do think that the new "Terms" for the Pre-K will hurt those "Babysitter Parents"... Just think cutting back from 6 1/2 hours to 4 hours and all the WORK it takes getting a child ready for SCHOOL at that age just to have to find someone to pick them up earlier is gonna cramp some folks style. I think School Systems will have to set up a pay for play after hours daycare to watch the kids till the parents can pick them up. Might just be a win, win for the School System, or at least an off campus day care might be a good business venture where they kids can be escorted from the school over to the "Other" daycares to do their "Business"!

And some folks say I have NO VISION! lol...lol...lol...lol...


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