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Post subject: Sheriff opposes local new businesses
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:49 pm
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Recently Dade County Sheriff Patrick has voiced opposition to the opening of new internet cafe’s in the county. The Dade County Sentinel reports
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"The "Internet café" is beginning to be a problem in Georgia," Cannon told the commissioners. He asked them to consider ordinances other counties have passed addressing this issue and come up with one of their own for Dade.
County Attorney Robin Rogers was asked to look into coming up with an ordinance banning such café’s. You may ask what is an internet café? I took the time today to got to one such café on HWY 136 and find out what all the roar was about. The Café Shown in the photo
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Rents internet time on it’s computers. The price is one dollar per five minutes. You can then surf the web for $12 an hour. As an added incentive you are giving one hundred credits which you may use on a sweepstake. No purchase is necessary for these sweepstakes. Dan an employee at the business said an individual may come in and get one hundred credits for free. You may win cash prizes. This is where the sheriff calls it gambling. In contrast Pilot truck station offers internet wifi service for five dollars a day. They also have sweepstakes at that establishment from time to time. I wonder why the sheriff is not going after that? Here is a comparison I found on the internet on an industry website. ----------------------FAST FOOD------------------------------INTERNET
Product----------------hamburger------------------------- 1 hour of websurfing
Game type-------------peel tab----------------------------- keno,poker,slots
The only conclusion I can come up with is that the county would have to shut down all sweepstakes. A ban on internet rental would affect many businesses. The business I talked to says it will employ about 4 people. They also rent office space just outside the city limits.
“The Paradise Internet Café is back in operation at this time. The business has reopened after a thorough investigation by the Thomasville Police Department as to the legality of the activities at the business. The investigation was prompted as a result of concerns about the operation of an Internet café within the city and about the possibility of illegal gambling taking place at this kind of establishment. The investigation of the Paradise Internet Café has shown that its current operations in Thomasville appear to fall within what is allowed under state law dealing with sweepstakes activities. As long as the Paradise Internet Café continues to operate legally, the City will not pursue charges. The City is concerned not only about the legality of the businesses operating in our community, but also about the City’s responsibility to protect the rights of all individuals and property owners in our community. In a press conference conducted recently, the Governor, the Attorney General and other state officials all pledged to work together to promote legislation which will address more clearly the kinds of activities than can and cannot be conducted at Internet cafes and similar establishments. The City of Thomasville will continue to monitor these legislative changes.”
What the press release did not say is that the Governor Vetoed a bill last year that would have made some type of internet gambling illegal. So now lets look at the lottery. Here is a sign from a local store in the County.
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Did you notice the beer and lottery. If the Sheriff is so concerned about gambling then maybe the county could not allow lottery to be sold at places as a condition of their malt beverage license. After all someone might buy a bunch of beer go drink it and scratch off. They then may go out a rob some houses(especially if they are a little tipsy) so they can go buy some more lotto. I can tell you a lot more play lotto in this county that any other games. If it is the gambling he is after then the county should make the store owners decide which poison they wanted to make their profits from. Here is a link that shows the lottery has not been funding like they should. http://redandblack.com/2011/12/07/lotte ... s-running/ So even this legal gambling is fixing to change the rules on how they fund scholarships. Here is a story about one of the businesses in Dalton that also is open here in Trenton. http://www.romenews-tribune.com/view/fu ... t-gambling Here is link where the DA said it was ok in another city. http://www.times-georgian.com/view/full ... ory_offset
The county needs to stop wasting it’s time and money on trying to keep businesses out and start on trying to bring them in. We do not need zoning. We do not need to pick winners and losers in business. A republican commission should be against government regulation. A republican sheriff should be also. He should be going after the thieves and and patrolling the neighborhoods not working on ways to stop legitimate businesses. How many jobs did we loose because of the paper mill deal? Why are we wasting time and effort on this?
Post subject: Re: Sheriff opposes local new businesses
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:12 am
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I found it ironic that in the same paper where the sheriff is against gambling, the DDA was promoting it's lottery. That is not gambling you say? I will tell you that in some circles in Dade any games of chance are of the devil.
Also, did you hear thurston howell the third "Romney" bet Rick Perry $10,000 last night in the debate?
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The biggest gamble right now in Dade County is when you leave your house will you stuff still be there when you return!!!!!! All the press releases in the world won't stop the break-ins!
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:49 pm
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And this is a little related but let's let the county spend a bunch of money to try and usurp the state to stop it and then the state will undue it next session. http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000064485
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:00 am
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Dade targets illegal gambling Ordinance proposed to close ‘loopholes’ in state law By Joy Lukachick Staff Writer TRENTON, Ga. — Dade County officials are considering a new ordinance to crack down on businesses that offer illegal gambling. The ordinance was drafted after law officers cited an uptick in game rooms that offer cash prizes or prepaid credit cards as prizes on their machines — which is illegal in Georgia. Sheriff Patrick Cannon said there are at least three businesses in the area with suspicious operations. But he said the state law has loopholes to regulate these businesses and the ordinance clearly will define what is illegal. “Until the legislators are able to come up with a solution and enact a law that covers the whole thing with no loopholes, this will prevent [illegal gambling],” Cannon said. If passed, the ordinance will regulate how many coinoperated machines a game room can offer, require businesses to keep records available for inspection and require owners to post signs warning it is illegal to receive cash prizes or a single prize that is valued more than $5. Regulating these game rooms will fall under the county’s Alcohol Beverage Control Board, authorities said. The proposed ordinance was given to the commissioners at Thursday night’s meeting and likely will be voted on next month, said County Commission Chairman Ted Rumley. The ordinance mirrors those in areas like Rossville and DeKalb and Gwinnett counties, Cannon said. Rumley said the ordinance would deal with both businesses operating illegally and the use of illegally operated coin-machines. Several commissioners noted the current state law is confusing because bingo and the lottery are legal, but using machines to win cash is not. Some of the suspicious gambling machines in the county are showing up at Internet cafes, Cannon said. Investigating suspicious gambling cites is cumbersome and requires undercover investigations, he said. Also if the gambling machines have to be confiscated, the sheriff’s office has to find a place for storage. Under the new ordinance, owners caught operating illegally would have their license suspended for a year in addition to any state charges. A third offense would revoke the owner’s license. Also the ordinance would allow the county’s magistrate court to impose a $250 fine on anyone convicted of receiving money as a reward on a coin-operated machine or sweepstake device.
Post subject: Re: Sheriff opposes local new businesses
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Mr Rumley saying the commission will move quickly on the ordinance. Like they haven't seen a ordinance they didn't like... Legal or Not. Oh yea and the report given by the commissioners. Good to know about the trees being stolen from the curuch and a winning basketball team. Now that's what I call County Business!!!!!!! Keep up the hard work!
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Otherwise, the Jan. 5 meeting was more than normally “business-as-usual,” with few big issues. An ordinance to deter illegal Internet gambling in Dade, for instance, was tabled on the recommendation of Robin Rogers, the county attorney, who said he had only just delivered a draft to the commissioners and they needed time to consider it.
Chairman Rumley said, though, that the issue was an important one – “It’s a bad situation” – and that the commission may hold a special called meeting to approve the ordinance.
Has anyone told us other than the Sheriff of why “It’s a bad situation” ??????????? By that I mean actually been able to back up the quote with a simple thing like FACTS!
Or is this another case of "We just ain't Fer it"...
I know alot of things that some might consider “It’s a bad situation” but that doesn't mean there ought to be a law against it... Ever seen me in a G-String??????? lol...lol...lol...
By Kristina Torres The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
4:40 p.m. Monday, January 9, 2012 Two Delaware officials on Monday lauded the idea of gaming machines for Georgia, saying the machines had raised significant revenue for their state over the past 15 years and could do the same here.
Richard C. Cathcart, the city manager of Delaware City and a former state legislator, and Dover City Councilman James L. Hutchison testified before a joint economic development committee of the Georgia Legislature.
Cathcart said since 1996, video lottery terminals in Delaware have generated $8 billion in revenue, with nearly $3 billion of that money going to the state. Hutchison, who is also Dover's former police chief and mayor, said concerns he had about crime proved to be unfounded.
Georgia lawmakers over the past few years have considered the idea of allowing similar terminals in the state, with proceeds to benefit popular programs such as the HOPE scholarship. Gov. Nathan Deal, however, strongly opposes the idea, and it is not clear the proposal will gain traction during the 40-day legislative session.
Post subject: Re: Sheriff opposes local new businesses
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:10 am
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It's much like the Malt Beverage issue that came up earlier this year in the City. We don't protest the sell of beer and wine in our other stores just in our Resturants. We don't mind the lottery but we don't want it done on-line???
Hutchison, who is also Dover's former police chief and mayor, said concerns he had about crime proved to be unfounded.
It's always good when you "ain't fer it" to bring the word crime into the discussion. I have heard the Sheriff use that word but have yet seen any numbers to justify the use of it. When it's good... It's fer the kids... When it's bad.... The crime rate goes up.... Neither have been backed up by numbers, just somone saying it...
Post subject: Re: Sheriff opposes local new businesses
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:27 pm
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I guarantee if the county could find a way to get a cut of the alleged internet gambling there wouldn't be a chance of them passing an ordinance against it. Thank goodness the nanny state is alive and well in Dade County.
If God trusts me enough to let me decide whether to make a bet online or anywhere else for that matter what moral right does the government have to tell me I can't? I wonder if anyone has ever realized that this kind of moralistic lawmaking is not all that different than what goes on in Muslim countries that use the government to enforce their version of theocratic social engineering?
The sole reason to have a government is to keep me from harming you and you from harming me. Past that and you're meddling. The Commission is now officially meddling. We need some candidates for commission it appears.
_________________ Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. .. those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. C.S. Lewis
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