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Post subject: Re: Regional TSPLOST projects due today and update.
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:10 am
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Yea seems we have a problem of maintaining the roads but yet want to add another tax to build an interchange instead of FIXING an issue at the 136 and Hwy 11 interchange. Still not sure why we don't want to make 136 go straight through the lite and past Ingles and up the mountains, I will never figure out that one. Guess it makes more sense to make two turns to stay on one road. Kinda like staying left in the turning lane to go straight. Makes perfect sense....
published Wednesday, August 3rd, 2011 Georgia counties bicker on road funds by Mariann Martin ROME, Ga. — What was supposed to be a meeting to finalize a list of transportation projects for the 15-county Northwest Georgia region turned into five hours of political horse trading as members of an executive committee tried to secure more funding for their counties.
Dozens of projects were added, but only a handful were removed from the list that has to be presented on Aug. 15 to the full 30-member Georgia Department of Transportation's Round Table for Northwest Georgia. In the end, the project list was almost $50 million over budget, while officials still expressed dissatisfaction over how the money was divided.
"I don't think you can even sell it to the round table, much less the voters. We can't even agree on it," said Bartow County Sole Commissioner Clarence Brown. "Unless you have some kind of formula backing up (the division of projects), this isn't going to work."
Catoosa, Chattooga, Murray, Whitfield and Walker counties all saw projects added to their lists, but Catoosa and Whitfield counties will contribute more money to the 10-year, 1 percent sales tax than they will receive in funding.
The tax, slated for a vote in July 2012, would bring in about $1.3 billion for the 15-county area. The Georgia Legislature voted to hold the referendum after transportation officials said there wasn't enough money in the state fund to meet transportation needs.
One-quarter of the money will go to counties for discretionary use such as paving roads or helping with county transportation budgets, while the rest will be divided for specific projects.
When the five-member committee first began negotiations, each county chose their top four projects to be added to the list. Southern counties such as Floyd, Polk and Bartow had larger projects, so they received the lion's share of the funding. Smaller counties complained the funding was unfair, making it impossible to get voters to pass such a lopsided division.
During Tuesday's meeting in Rome, transportation department officials brought in a chart that showed how much each county would receive compared to its population and the amount of sales tax raised. The numbers gave counties a bargaining tool.
"Some of us will be donor counties -- we kind of expect that," said Whitfield County Commission Chairman Mike Babb. "But we need a fair distribution of the gain and the pain."
The county comparison wasn't fair, Floyd County Commission Chairman Eddie Lumsden insisted. Lumsden is not on the executive committee, but attended the meeting.
Lumsden said the projects in Floyd County benefit several counties, but the committee made it look as though only Floyd County will receive the money.
"The major projects are the ones that are really important," he said. "They will benefit the whole region."
Dade County Executive Ted Rumley had little to say during the debate, saying the selling point for rural counties such as Dade, Chattooga, Murray and Walker will be the discretionary money. That money is divided on a formula calculating 4/5 of a county's roads and 1/5 of its population. The money also can be spent for a wide range of projects or county employees, so long as they are in the transportation sector.
"I'm not saying it is going to be easy to sell to the voters, but I think the best selling point is the discretionary money," he said.
The committee will meet again Aug. 11. The full roundtable must approve a completed document by Oct. 15 for the list to go to a vote.
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FUNDING BREAKDOWN County / Discretionary funding / Project funding / Projected sales tax based on 2010 numbers
Catoosa County / $19.9 million / $50 million / $85.3 million
Chattooga / $21.6 million / $8 million / $23.6 million
Dade / $10.4 million / $26.5 million / $22.5 million
Gordon / $24.3 million / $60.9 million / $83.2 million
Murray / $17.2 million / $26.7 million / $41.8 million
Walker / $29.8 million / $23.4 million / $52.7 million
Whitfield / $37.3 million / $124.3 million / $169.7 million
* Preliminary list of funding over 10-year period. Numbers are estimates.
Post subject: Re: Regional TSPLOST projects due today and update.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:32 am
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Ted announced this morning "IF Passed" this county could recceive as much as 800 thousand a year just for county roads. The money would also be set aside for the exit and frontage rd to I-59 for our "Major Project" to be completed in the next five years after being voted in.... It always sounds good till they get the money and it goes to.... Well you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dalton tax meet draws no residents By Mariann Martin Friday, September 23, 2011 DALTON, Ga. -- Not a single resident showed up Thursday for a two-hour public meeting held to explain a controversial 1 percent regional transportation sales tax that voters will approve or reject next July.
Whitfield County Commission Chairman Mike Babb said he was "a little disappointed."
"If you are going to vote on something, you need to be educated," Babb said. "Even if they are going to vote 'no' they should find out what they are voting against."
Several Georgia Transportation Department employees set up 16 large maps -- one for each of the 15 counties in the Northwest Georgia region and one map with all 15 counties combined.
They laid out sign-up sheets and packets with information about the dozens of projects in the region.
Local county commissioners, the Whitfield County planner and the county manager were on hand to explain the projects and talk about why they were needed.
But no one came to take the packets or ask questions.
Babb said about 60 people attended a similar meeting in Cartersville on Tuesday. The event even drew several protesters, he said.
Lawmakers passed a law this spring that divides Georgia into transportation regions. If residents in a region don't vote on the tax in July or don't pass it, the region will receive fewer matching funds from the state Department of Transportation.
If passed across the state, the tax -- a special local option sales tax -- will pour about $16 billion to $19 billion into county coffers over 10 years, with about $1.3 billion going to Northwest Georgia, analysts said.
Northwest Georgia officials spent about a month compiling a list of projects for each county. They divided the money based on population and the amount of sales tax revenue each county will generate.
Tea party groups across the state have strongly opposed the tax and there are vocal opponents in Whitfield County.
The 30-member Regional Commission roundtable will vote on the final projects list on Sept. 29, the final step before the referendum.
Elected officials aren't sure whether the county voters will support the transportation SPLOST. The turnout Thursday might be an indication that most people have already made up their minds about the tax, Babb said.
Catoosa County Commissioner Jim Cutler, who attended the meeting, said he thinks the projects were fairly split and those in his county will benefit many of its residents.
"I understand the citizens' concerns that some of the money may go out of our county to other counties, but I think we will get our fair share," Cutler said. "A sales tax is one of the most fairest of taxes."
The regional tax allows counties to choose their projects rather than fight for approval from the state transportation department, Cutler said.
Post subject: Re: Regional TSPLOST projects due today and update.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:28 pm
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Now that this new E.S.P.L.O.S.T has been continued, seems Mr. Rumley has been continued to "Beat the Drum" for another penny from people who do try shop at home. By using the term... "Most Fair Tax" we will get another chance to vote ourselves in another TAX! Oh come on... It's just a Penny here, Penny there.... Just SHOW US THE MONEY! I just wonder how many people will continue to support these penny taxes????????????????
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