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 Post subject: HB 277 TSPLOST Passes Mullis says yes Scott says no
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:32 pm 
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Last week the Senate passed an optional sales tax for transportation. That sounds great you say. I say it stinks. For the past few years transportation funding has stalled. Why is this? This is because the house wanted a statewide penny sales tax and the Senate championed by Jeff Mullis thought a regional approach with counties making the decision was the way to go. I appreciate his stance on that methodalogy. Well in a last minute deal that would make the democrats in Washington on obamacare be envious his opinion changed. Now it will be voted on by a regional level. What does this mean? Every voter in Dade County could vote against this tax and if the region passed it we are stuck with a sales tax. What else? The wording that will appear on the ballot yeilds one to believe that it will improve Dade's transportation when if fact we may only have one token project on the list. What is even worse is that we can not even opt out as a county if a majority of the region decides to hold a tsplost. Thank You Mullis for this soon to be taxation and your flip flop that we will face. I am sure this bill will be as messed up as your big transportation bill last year. What was that headline from the AJC this year? Something about "everyone still scratching their heads and trying to figure out the transportation bill". Thank you Rep. Martin Scott for standing for your principles and voting against HB 277.

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http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politic ... 87827.html
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Now what?

• Gov. Sonny Perdue decides whether to sign the bill.

• A regional “roundtable” and a state director of planning appointed by the governor draw up a project list. The roundtable consists of the county commission chairman and a mayor from each county in the region, though the Atlanta mayor also gets a seat in this region. That means a big county like Gwinnett or DeKalb has the same vote as a much smaller one like Rockdale.

• The roundtable has the final say, but it can only choose projects from a list provided by the governor’s appointee. They take public comment.

• The roundtable approves the list. Or doesn’t, in which case “special district gridlock” is declared and the region has no referendum. Such regions lose out on new state benefits for small local road projects, and they can’t try again for two years.

• If a region approves a list, it goes to the voters for a referendum in 2012, along with a 1 percent sales tax to fund them.

• If voters approve it, money starts flowing and projects get built.

• Ten years later, the tax is over. The process can begin again.

Where would the money go?

• All of it stays in the region. Most of it goes only to projects on the voter-approved list.

• However, a portion is returned to city and county governments where the tax came from, for whatever they want to build. Outside the Atlanta region, that’s 25 percent; in the Atlanta region, 15 percent.

What will they build?

A project list has yet to be assembled, but some advocates wasted no time getting their suggestions out. Some big-name ones:

The Perimeter Community Improvement District called for a $277 million mass transit line between Cumberland/Galleria, Perimeter Center and Doraville.
The Beltline
High-Occupancy Toll lanes: electronically tolled HOV lanes where solo drivers could pay to get out of congestion
MARTA

The MARTA board is reduced from 18 members to 11.
For three years the state lifts a restriction on how MARTA can spend its money, freeing up capital reserves to be spent on operations.
If a new tax is approved, that money can be spent on operations for any new projects, but not on operations of the current system.
We have issues

In the Legislature, the restrictions on MARTA rankled Atlanta Democrats, while some suburban and rural Republicans weren’t sure the restrictions were enough. Look for MARTA funding to spark a tug of war.
Lobbyists for local governments went head-to-head with the governor’s office over control of the project list. When it’s being drawn up, if the new governor’s planning director can’t agree with the roundtable on a signature project, it could be war.
Democrats and Republicans argued over whether a regional tax was constitutional. Look for this one to be decided in the courts.


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 Post subject: Re: HB 277 TSPLOST Passes Mullis says yes Scott says no
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I just wonder "IF" anybody is paying attention to what is going on? All of our money has always went to Atlanta and with all the support that Mullis get's from that District he is surley in their pocket and not listening to us up here in his "Real District"... But then again... He gives out his phone number but never seems to answer or call back.. Wonder if he taught the Sheriff that trick or they just learned it together....lol...lol... Gotta love Politics.....


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Has Mullis found a transportation tax that he cannot support?


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or a tax?


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Or FEE INCREASE?


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But I did while riding around today see a Mullisnite putting up a Hawkins sign in their yard... I had to show Charlie and LAUGH! If Jeffie says he's the man, then dad gum it, He's THE MAN!!!! lol...lol..lol...


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 Post subject: Re: HB 277 TSPLOST Passes Mullis says yes Scott says no
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With the potholes in I-59 and I-24 getting bigger a tax increase is needed...I hear the Asphalt Pach they use from Lowe's is going up and we got to do something to be able to buy more....


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 Post subject: Re: HB 277 TSPLOST Passes Mullis says yes Scott says no
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Maybe we do need The train to be able get above the potholes and high grass!


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 Post subject: Re: HB 277 TSPLOST Passes Mullis says yes Scott says no
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Everybody is happy with the transportation bill I am just being to critical?
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Suprise NOT
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/atlanta-forw ... 09935.html
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Atlanta Forward/ Another View: 'Nightmarish' transportation tax plan will failBy The Rome News-Tribune


8:06 p.m. Friday, April 30, 2010

The best that can be said about the state’s new transportation tax proposal, already approved by a General Assembly that vowed no new taxes, is that it is better than doing nothing. Were it not, of course, that it attempts to do something worse in the process.

One supposes the excuse for ignoring the no-tax rhetoric is that the legislators won’t have done it. As it requires approval of the voters — at gunpoint, if one reads the fine print — the citizens will have done this to themselves. The politicians can plead innocence, of a sort.

The long and complicated 29-page measure was adopted by legislators that for the most part had not read the last-minute arrival and certainly not thought it through. Apparently the arm-twisting of Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed, a former senator and Democrat, had much to do with not more of a fight being put up about it.

That’s fitting, in that the Atlanta metro is where traffic is the No. 1 issue and the money needs the greatest. This oddball “regional” sales tax, whereby the state is carved into 12 districts, each of which must separately approve their own tax and projects in 2012, certainly should start getting something done on that turf. It is estimated that in the core 10-county “Atlanta” district crammed with people, the added penny would bring in perhaps $750 million a year.

Given the way Atlantans gripe about their gridlock, there should be no difficulty getting this passed there. As for Atlantans finally paying for their own road projects all by themselves, instead of asking the other half of the state’s residents to chip in: Hurrah! About time!

However, one might add, much of the reason it has come to this is that the Department of Transportation can’t afford to do all the work Atlanta needs any longer because it is flat busted from past commitments and continuing bond payments.

After that Atlanta bailout is cheered, the rest of this mishmash of disjointed and conflicting ideas — kind of reminds us of a state version of health care reform actually — is nightmarish.

It is also typical of what governments wind up doing when trying to plaster over past bad policies instead of just going back to the root cause and fixing it.

Simply put, Georgia can’t afford the road work it needs because of its absurdly low 7.5 cent-per-gallon motor fuel tax, which must be given to the DOT, paired with something not many other states do: Collect sales tax on every pump dollar spent, which doesn’t necessarily go to the DOT depending on what the politicians want.

How much simpler it would be to simply triple the motor fuel tax and let the DOT, which actually knows something about both highways and state needs, continue its past good works instead of handing this all over to politicians to carve up on a regional basis. Worse, now local politicians (county and city) also get a hand in this, or think they do but actually don’t, as the governor’s office will hold veto powers as to what projects actually get on the ballot.

As for switching from a user tax — motorists pay for the roads — to a sales tax on everything for building highways and bridges, that flies like a lead balloon. An extra penny of every dollar spent on underwear and computer gadgets — and groceries! — will go for asphalt even though a pretty good case can be made that schools and public safety could use such an infusion a lot more.

Much of the rest of this new scheme can be treated like most of the state’s bad legislative mistakes: Just grin and bear it and wait for it to fall apart of its own accord. As the saying goes, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”

And so, it seems, are state highways.


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Great post. right on the money. That TLOST vote was a spectacular display of political cowardice. Typical. They prove the old adage of "how can we fool them again?"

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